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(@prince_yackerz)
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I could argue till I'm blue in the face on how Prince evolved throughout JK history from Newbie to as we thought of ourselves "elite". The past few weeks I have asked many fo the Prince who were with me in the latter days of JK, and they agree when I ask weren't we dominant?
The only reason that we did not receive the respect other clans did was because of our time in transition from newbie to "elite". During that time:

1) It was the time were most people played JK that still give 2 cents of a care about it, so they remember us as mediocre.
2) even those who continued to play JK later on when Prince was still around 2001 and 2002, struggled to see Prince as anything more than mediocre because our name was tarnished.

as a final quote I wish to state something that I was once told and almost considered (sometime late 2000 - 2001):
"Why don't Prince disappear for a few months and change its name? Then tell most everyone to come back on allias names. Then people would think you are the best thing since sliced bread."
(I'm pretty sure this was told to me by some Prince that later joined VDS)

and that is all folks, sorry that I had to get my last 2 cents in haha.

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Topic starter Posted : 21/01/2006 7:40 am
(@dsbr_phelan)
Honorable Member

blah

whats that line? ignorance is bliss

think for a second about the topic yack, if i played in 98-99, and your clan came into regular jk in 99. you were total newbies, now obviously my perception of your clan will be that. now i really dont care what your clan did in 2004, because the game was on its last lungs. now back to the topic, best nf sabs clan of all time or whatever... i would say far from it.

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Posted : 21/01/2006 9:07 am
(@prince_yackerz)
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yes of course you'd think we were newbies being an old schooler like yourself, but that's the thing u THINK.. thinking isn't right always my friend. Why are there terrorists in the world? because they think they are right.
your thinking is exaggerated my friend...
Prince history phelan: http://www.EricYacko.com/prince/history.html
Prince started in 1997 trial JK wise.. (we became dominant in trial JK while other clans were in full version) .. we were not newbies but very familiar to the whole JK scene come 1999.. skill wise for Full Version some were newbies (not because they were newbies but because they were adjusting to playing Full version JK).. some were pretty good..

ya Prince wasn't a well established among the sabers clan until 2000.. we were not our best then but still id argue pretty good..nevertheless we were at our best id say 2001.. not 2004,. lol.. the last game i can remember playing was probally early 2003..
JK still had a lot of lung in it at that time (late 2000 - 2001, even some in 2002).,., maybe not as much as when you are referring but eh 🙂 Prince was there too!~

once again I'm saying Prince longevity wise was the best sabers clan.. aight I'd just like to have Prince respected as one of the best sabers clans.. because we had a significant impact on the JK community, developing great saberists.. 1999-2002
... I'll say it we weren't the best skill wise skill wise,..at best im trying to argue our skills were underrated (I'd say highly by some).. we weren't so newbie that our lack of skills would harm the influence we had on the JK community.

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Topic starter Posted : 21/01/2006 10:25 am
(@subzero)
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Of course prince members will agree prince owned, just like 90% of the idiots here will all agree their clans owned. You fall into this category of idiots yack. I never once put any of the clans ive been in on any lists cause I care so little about jk now that I can't be bothered lying to myself anymore.

I played jk throughout all of 2001 and it was probably my best year ever cause I was finally in a decent clan - I never lost to a prince member at all, and I was asked to join numerous times.

I hope that was your last two cents cause the way I see it, nobody here appears to be agreeing with your silly rhetoric.

I suggest you get professional help yackman, take a long look in the mirror, and try really hard to get a life.

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Off topic, the SM newbie seems to be one of the only people here showing signs of actually having a brain. People from 97-98 who quit would of had only one year's experience which is about the same as your average player, not to mention alot of them were still kiddies back then, and as we all know when it comes to games: kids are dumb.
It would of been easy to rise to the top and gain recognition, the game had only been out a year and the majority of players were what we would consider newbies.
Your average player these days has played jk at least 2-3 years not to mention the available pool of gaming knowledge built up over the years which is so easily accessible, it's not very hard to surpass the older guys.

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Posted : 22/01/2006 1:44 am
(@prince_yackerz)
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ya 🙂 im done haha,. Nesse you provide some good points. I agree with you on the 1997 and 1998 JK players statement, I'm sure they were good for their time but that is their time and the longer I played JK the more sabering style changed.

as for Prince and weird things going on .. well I can't state who did what in a clan that often had too many members to keep track of as Prince,. im sure like every clan their were some who broke proper JK ethics in sabering by cheating... of course they would always hide it from me. I really didn't get too many complaints.. and if I did i would of definately pursued them with viscious harshness. 🙂 haha I don't know why everyone brings snoopy up in memory of Prince.. ya he was a big voice in everything for 4 years or so but he never played much at all. I guess maybe you just remember him by his mouth lol. As you can remember Karbon by his mouth as well..

as for judging based on individual basis I'll agree with that one.. as I was always one especially in the earlier days what wished to distance himself from the skill level of his clan.

Sub 🙂 i don't even know where to begin with u.... but I don't recall playing you... maybe ever. If I did, then your skill didn't stick out in my mind or anything. I usually remember who beats me..
and I got no memory of you. If can prove me otherwise be my guest.
I don't really care tho 🙂 ya my opinion is one of many people's but so is yours, I've stated mine... and maybe a lot of it is naive but that is just how I saw things back in the day. I realize it isn't entirely right, but nevertheless that is how a large majority of Prince perceived JK. I think it is at least worth mentioning. We always viewed VDS as our rivals even before Zod, ox, and ax joined. Tybalt and I we saw eye to eye on many things, even Lyrcist and I were fairly good friends. Competetive but friends nevertheless. JCS was our rivals too.. even tho I never viewed them as high as VDS. VDS had clear cut leaders that were comparative to me in skill,. JCS had people that were comparative to other mediocre Prince, (This is JCS in 2000 and 2001, I'm not slighting any of the great JCS of the past) but the JCS then, I personally didn't feel challenged by any one of em. Naive, prideful yes.. but that is just feelings and dat is all I'm expressing.

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Topic starter Posted : 22/01/2006 7:51 am
(@prince_yackerz)
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haha prince snoopy was a fun character... he was like our 3rd member ever in 1997.. and was dedicated to us throughout. i still talk to him some.
I do remember goat he was quite a friendly fellow,. don't think he ever was much good at JK much tho haha.. I remember him always talking about this GRAAL online game.. he was sposed to be the leader of the Prince division of it.

Anyhow, I'm glad there is someone besides angry advocates on here who knows a little of Prince history.

and How bout them Steelers !~

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Topic starter Posted : 22/01/2006 10:43 am
(@novacaine)
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Ness...That "cheats" you were talking about when you would skip from one part of the level to another was because of a cog.It was known as a Anti Hack saber.If you had God mode on...It wouldn't skip you.People didn't know about it until someone called them on it.I had people say I was a hacker all the time because I would complain about it.Then I'd be like send me the same cog you're using.And you tell me what it does.So I would play him/her with the same file they were using and then they would see that if you didn't have God mode on...You would skip on the level evgery time they swung.

Back to this Topic.
Yack,am I understanding that you have no idea who Sub is?If you really don't know who he was then you really are an idoit.He was DOJO_Emp_SubZero/DOJO_CL_SubZero.Then he disbbanned DOJO and started SyKoTiC then changed into SyK.I'm not a SubZero worshipper,I've just known him for years.I'll admit He is better then me.But I had a few games where I did fairly well I guess.Prince was not "Elite" in Skills.Hell,I didn't even think they were Experts.Before I joined Prince after OK(It was my first LAdder clan with a few pretty well known members) disbanned.I didn't even know who the hell they were.After OK disbanned.I was asked to join Prince and HDK.Its a pitty I joined Prince.Later on I joined HDK and I had alot of fun with it.Prince was always Mocked as a whole.Prince may have had a few good members.But nothing that ever stuck out.And if they were good,They were in it for another reason.Like when Soul/Hex and I all joined and left like a week later or whatever.I thought the first post on this was going to be your "last"?

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Posted : 22/01/2006 2:35 pm
(@subzero)
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hahahah i dont believe it I quit this game over four years ago and this sm nobody is insulting ME at jk, hahahahaha n1. no really, NICE ONE. The fact that you assume a jk insult means anything anymore, let alone anyone in sm actually putting up a fight is hilarious. Thankyou for the comedic material, between you and yackman it seems to get better everytime i come here.

Yack i dont know what that comment was supposed to mean but i can guarantee you my feelings are still quite in tact 🙂 I never met/talked/played with you personally, different time zones i suppose.. anyway i know youre not gonna stop arguing over why you think "PRINCE R00LZ!!!1!1" and im probably never gonna agree with you so ill just leave with the only nice thing i can say and thats:

I'm sure YOU (not prince) were very good and committed to prince/jk. Be satisfied cause I really don't get much nicer than that.

Oh and nesseight for the record, you are an sm newbie. Neg me? at what? how? How about this, you and your loser clan go and get lives, and then lets see who negs who. F u c k i n g idiot.

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Posted : 22/01/2006 3:57 pm
(@subzero)
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"I am better than him at real life as well as video games."

I dont even play video games anymore, apparantly you still do.

You just killed your entire argument there didnt you. I think this means you lose.

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Posted : 22/01/2006 4:59 pm
(@dsbr_phelan)
Honorable Member

you dominated TRIAL VERSION? how are you bragging about this fact... honestly i would go into a trial version game and neg the entire playing field in an ffa, dude seriously how are you bragging about beating a bunch of newbies who dont know what the always run feature in the options is?

ALSO i dont THINK prince was a newbie clan, i know for a fact they were in my time. i beat many people 3-0, but the ones that i would beat 3- -1 or 3- -2 in a game are the ones that stuck out in my mind... how you ask? easy cliff was my spot and after a hit, most newbies and even "elites" were prone to falling off the cliff to avoid being hit again.

now you really cannot defend prince from my personal arguments, and maybe jk wasnt on its last lungs in 2001, but you know what? i never remembered seeing 800 players in the jk rooms on at one time in 01, and i cant really recall nar shaddaa being at capacity on a regular basis then either. people were always trying to get into nar and often you would have to wait 10-15 minutes as you were constantly clicking nar hoping that someone leaves the room. hell even oasis was always close to capacity. even that "expert" room had a tons of folks in it in my day. so i say i dont care about when prince was "dominant" or whatever, especially since there are a ton of people from your generation who are disputing this fact.

also to that nesseight, its not worth my time responding to your opinion, first off you doctored an SS of me and didnt even use my actual in game name, and you rpetended to be DSbr_Sithlord when there are DSbr people on this board, oh wait you are in SM too... i dont know what it means but its probably something newbie like sith masters

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Posted : 22/01/2006 5:09 pm
(@petrorock)
Active Member

WLP was the best nf sabers clan. And I was the best WLP. You're all nothing. Good Night 8)

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Posted : 22/01/2006 5:11 pm
(@dsbr_phelan)
Honorable Member

well DSbr was not an nf sabers clan so you wouldnt have found us on cases ladder... and maybe dP became good after DSbr left the scene i dont know, but they were always our bitch even when DSbr was on its last legs.

its just too bad the extent of your knowledge of the jk community goes no farther than editing or nf sabers from 2003 and on cuz then maybe you'd have a clue. the members of dP became what it they were from being beaten into the ground repeatedly by DSbr both in the game and out.

by the way my comment of editing wasnt a compliment, nobody cares who the "elite" editors were dude... only reason i know you edit is cuz someone made fun of an SM guy in the other saber thread and he replied "DUDE YOU DUN KNOW WHO WE R, WE EDIT WE ARE L33T RAWRRR"

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Posted : 22/01/2006 7:49 pm
(@saberist)
Eminent Member

jesus christ SM newbie you type so much shit its ridiculous who the fuck reads all of that

i stopped after reading dp is the best hahaha dude you really should find out more about JK before starting to randomly talking shit, especially if its like 5 paragraphs of it, btw when are you playing us

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Posted : 22/01/2006 9:56 pm
(@saberist)
Eminent Member

well nice job figuring it out genius, but it still gives me problems

besides, YOU can host, i dont see whats your problem with it

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Posted : 22/01/2006 10:26 pm
(@saberist)
Eminent Member

oh ya and WLP = we love phelan

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Posted : 22/01/2006 10:27 pm
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