How did you kill elite darkies/lighties?

i run the surge in oasis about 75% to 25%. I pull it randomly. you can take more damage in the tunnel that way and also time an escape. sometimes i camp the tunnel about 25seconds to about 35-40 seconds to give the illusion i've got the surge. sometimes i go back for it sometimes it's bait. i run the bacta unless someone is a compulsive gripper. i like the bacta to stagger too run one pull one so on. for dark vs dark.

if i play dark vs light i run every item all the time so theres less chance of them getting lucky and healing after i spent a few minutes working on one kill. the concussion rifle is the most important item in oasis to time in a game with lighties.

conc is also the most important to ttime vs a conc/dest surger style like spanker thc narz to some extent. it's the new schooler style. if i play someone like that i make god damn sure nobody has a gun out unless i say so. the vest is only important if youre light (so that everyone else is easy to kill).

SHUT UP!

Canyon oasis - light side - activate lightning trap - use force absorb - take lightning hits and recharge - then activate protection -

then whenever i'm low on force ill hit absorb and repeat the process and camp out. works well if you are in a big game with about 4+ players

i love the trap in nf ji! yes i know it's a gay maneuver (no offense to any gays).

i love the trap in nf ji! yes i know it's a gay maneuver (no offense to any gays).

i dont think nifty and legacy post here all that much to be that offended

Practice as best as possible.

I find this thread interesting because back when we all played JK nobody talked about their tactics/strat unless they were training someone.

After I got good I never played as a lighty.

Dark vs dark 1v1 for me the game was definaly about hoging bacta and health and surge. I worried less about guns and sheilds than vs a lighty. In ff guns I tryed to use the saber in tight places and conc in open spaces. I remember the steps I took from being a newbie to xpert to elite. Learning from different people.

The first person that I remember seeing use straiff jumping as an effective part of their game was asskicker at that point he played as a darky.

After I learned how to move fast and effortlessly I learned how to control the surge and bacta. At that point there were alot of good darky ffers in WD and DSbr I think I learned alot from everyone I played back in those days.

I learned that against a good saberist in oasis the conc rifle can screw you in tight spaces like the vest ramp / conc tower and bridge... If someone has a conc rifle on the bridge you can pull grip and get in a saber slice while they are weaponless. If they jump to dodge you saber then you can destruction them off the bridge on their way down or saber slice the as they are comeing down I think I learned that from WD_Reiko. Even with low pings the guy falling has a disadvantage over the guy sliceing due to the lag ghost. (essincially your lag ghost is cutting them while their lag ghost is still to high in the air to land a saber cut unil you are already past them.) Even if its a very small ping there are still lag ghost expecially in JK because the movement is so extremly fast. The defence for this of coarse is to have your saber out and use your lag ghost to cut them as you are jumping into the air.

I learned to guard and time the conc tower boost when you have the surge saveing it until after your surge runs out. Allowing you 2 destructions after the surge is gone rather than one. I think I learned that from Narz when he was good.

I found a newbie called BSB_Spanker that had all the makeings of an elite player. So I trained him the elite ff arts and All the sudden in like 2 weeks he was elite. After that I continued to improve until I hit a computer barrier. At that point alot of people had cable modems and good comps and I found an absolutly infuriating thing I called grip burnthough .. What happend was with my 56k and shitty comp against cable modems I could get a grip lock on someone and if they grip locked me their grip would burn through mine and continue to grip. If they got the first grip lock on me then I got a grip lock it would simply cancle out rather than burn through.

While cable and dsl modems and good comps became the standard I was stuck playing jk on the lowest resalution that JK has and a laggy ass 27kbs modem and with that fucking grip burnthrough disadvantage!!! It got to the point where I could rarely beat spanker in FF oasis so I decided to quit playing JK. At the time I thougth people were hacking and accused several of just that. It wasnt until about a year later when I came back to the zone for a few weeks with a new computer that I realized that it was the computer barrier didnt allow me to do things other people could do in JK. wooops 😀

Anyway wow thats alot of shit .. ok back to topic

Me dark vs lighty :

I learned that an elite darky can beat an elite lighty in oasis useing a ceartain set of tactics / stratigy.

The key to beating an elite lighty in oasis is all about control rather than elite battle skills. With sabers a lighty can hit you and jump but you can hit them on the way down.. I explained this above in the dark vs dark. If you hog the sheilds and conc rifle and trade saber hits you win , if they use the rail then you can dodge well enoph and land saber hits...

A darky can control the vest sheilds boost and conc rifle better than a lighty can. The way this is acomplished is by useing destruction and grip to control their movement. At the begining of the game when im full I run in with saber and grip and try to score some saber hits. Once they hit me with a conc shot and my sheilds are down a bit I run and hide keeping a wall between them and me.

Its much easier to hide from a lighty than a darky for mulitple reasons. One being the obvious they have no grip and you do. The other is that they have no destruction to fill in the gap in fireing time of the conc rifle. So you can by feinting movements bait out a conc shot then move during the delay time and be gone again before their conc rifle can fire again. Only elites will understand this type of fast movement but anyway...

I hog all of the force boost and have the vest and concution rifle timed. When it is time for the vest to spawn again. I quicly move into the vest ramp and 1 second before the vest respawns fire a destruction into the wall right underneath the vest hole. Then I step up and grab the vest. This allows you to always get the vest. I obviously hog the shields after this and continue until I kill them with a saber hits. Once that is acomplished the main focus is on timeing the conc rifle once again useing destruction blasts or grip to always get it. Never use the conc rifle because they will pull it away and take it only use rail or saber... After that its all just about takeing it easy so I dont self kill hogging the vest and timeing the conc rifle while landing saber hits when Im full on sheilds and keeping them gripped almost all of the time to hinder their movement.

Oh yea and you had to pull out the repeater or bowcaster and fire a few shots after your full on amo or you wont be able to pick up the conc rifle and a good lighty would get it if you simply just pulled it.

Wow I swear JK is the best fps 1v1 2v2 game ever.

hey rhoph! long time...good to see some familiar faces.

wsup..what was your zone name?

lol, it's me Reiko!

oh hey wsup man!! yea long time no see

Yeah everything you said (rhophien) was correct except I like to pull out the conc as a darky from far distances sometimes to bait them into chasing after me with some false sense of security (for whatever reason).

I also think (know rather) that sometimes as a lighty the rail can overcome sabers.

by the way, what's up homie? long time no see.

...and thank the Lord too it's about time people like you start to come around.

Hey, we need to bump this topic!

One thing I started to embrace toward the end of my JK days vs elite darkies who could simply rape me in getting surge would be to simply not rely on the surge. Not even attempt to get it. Play pussy and loadup on other shit. A lot of the time, if you play pussy enough, they get irritated and want to come at you full force. If you do it long enough they just get mad. When that happens theyre like okay im getting surge and im going to power bomb this mother fucker. When they get to that point they start to dwindle a little bit on vest, health and bacta timing. thats when you can take over the game. take over the vest bacta and health packs, play vaginally, and with no surge you win and take them down.

that strategy doesnt always work (obviously) because some people can keep their heads cool and not get irritated. but it does happen. people also will spawn again and get their bearings by doing what you do. theyll play pussy until they can loadup on a few things then try and take over again.

you can beat any elite darkie with them taking surge and you without as long as you play right. you dont need the surge to win.

i only ever resorted to that strategy if i simply couldnt beat them for the surge. usually though i just grabbed conc and surge and spammed faces into oblivion. the pussy style is boring and i dont like it, but w/e

hmm...for lighties i always tried to just stay as far away from pull range as I could and rape them with conc shots. by doing this youre counting on your aim being better than theirs, as well as shield collection abilities. you also give up certain grip advantages for the majority. but if they cant pull your gun and you can outshoot them youre going to win.

one strategy i used vs i dont remember, maybe it was narz one game, actually worked beautifully. it was dark on dark and instead of concentrating on bacta, surge, and health, id play like i was vs a lightie and rape all of the shields. if you get those good conc hits in and avoid their dest conc spams you take them down that way.

but that only ever worked once in my whole life so dont count on it for your games, I guess 😛