How to use Force Protection/Deadly Sight in Multiplayer JK

well think about it this way. the typical method of killing a protection user in bgj is with the saber. in oasis you have more options but we'll get back to that later. if you dont use absorb, right you will survive approximately the same number of fire 2 saber hits which is a variable not a constant. that will save you against lighties and newbies.

but if you play someone smart, with a good natural FF saber, like WD_Reiko let's say... he's going to kill you with only destructions with maybe a luck saber hit or five. you start losing your shields and then you're going to start losing health QUICKLY (less than 5 destructions) and die almost instantly, unless you have your boost and your button mashing the force heal button, or have 5 bacta and be within close proximity of health youre dead. Unless you have absorb, which breaks this pattern, he would get 5-10 kills to your 0 in less than 15 or 20 minutes on your force protection and heal alone. Not to mention you wouldn't have any mana to use heal if you wanted to.

the only way to stay alive in a FF BGJ game to 3 for more than an hour is if you use absorb at all times, have 5 bacta, and control at least 3 boosts. which means you have totime all of them, and grab the ones that your opponent pulls which is very challenging if he double pulls or super pulls. End of story.

the chances are your opponent isn't going to have force throw binded unless they hack, they rejoin the game (make them host, any1 is glad to take a ff bgj host), or they find out your plot before the game all you need to worry about is keeping enough mana to have absorb on so you don't get destructed from 100 feet away all game (if you're luckY to get that close). with absorb you bring the fight to you (since destruction is ABSORBED giving you enough mana to keep it on) and you can make them choke.

the only way it works in oasis is if you have a partner or you're playing someone that can't gun or control items worth a damn.

many a good nf saberist (or anyone sneaky enough) have upset elite ff saberists with this cheap tactic. some people can even say they've lost a few times to pro. some good players never have had the patience or desire to beat protection newbies. some good ff gunners (and saberists) NEVER figured out how to kill any lighty.

darkies kill lighties with the force (attrition really), or with guns and sabers. lighties have to kill darkies with guns and sabers. the only advantage to light essentially is that you live longer on average, or potentially all game if you're good enough that day.

the dark side is about getting fast kills. the light side is about increasing your average life span. offense & defense.

please no more about this subject.. dont take my word for it log on to the jk channel and see for yourself. protection might work against some dsbrs (or the rest of the jk community) but WD's dont fall for that shit. neither will spanker.

I remember some nf saberists entered the FF BGJ 2v2 CWT using protection. All FF'ers know each other, so if they are going to play against 2 people they've never seen(unless they are aliases) before then they will figure they will be protection fags. And that's when you put force throw in your arsenal so you can make them self kill. It's such a waste of time playing against someone using force protection. Prob a waste of time playing this game =).

You're describing a very specific scenario, of an hour or more long 1v1 full force match on BGJ, which I confess is one I haven't played very much, ever, much less lately. When I do play BGJ, I have lately gone dark, for variety sake. Good points though!

My original complaint, the whole reason this thread even began, was because I was accused of cheating merely because I was able to USE protection at all, not even how I used it. Some people were either so used to it being forbidden, or it had just been so long, that they never realized it was a selectable MP power. 😉 I wouldn't say it's almighty, just for the inexperienced. MotS is a very different story...

You're describing a very specific scenario, of an hour or more long 1v1 full force match on BGJ, which I confess is one I haven't played very much, ever, much less lately. When I do play BGJ, I have lately gone dark, for variety sake. Good points though!

My original complaint, the whole reason this thread even began, was because I was accused of cheating merely because I was able to USE protection at all, not even how I used it. Some people were either so used to it being forbidden, or it had just been so long, that they never realized it was a selectable MP power. 😉 I wouldn't say it's almighty, just for the inexperienced. MotS is a very different story...

u r still teh suq newbian princess

Your words are meaningless, since you haven't played me, and probably never will. However, you have made me feel something like a princess with all the attention you've lavished upon me.

This does bring back memories of the good ol' days. Getting called a noob (by others noobs), getting accused of cheating, getting hacked, arguing with people over the finer points of the game, etc.

If this isn't a surviving retro community, it's a very clever simulation of one!

Getting called a noob (by others noobs),

dsbr r noobs

Getting called a noob (by others noobs),

dsbr r noobs

we learned by watching WD play

Your words are meaningless, since you haven't played me, and probably never will. However, you have made me feel something like a princess with all the attention you've lavished upon me.

This does bring back memories of the good ol' days. Getting called a noob (by others noobs), getting accused of cheating, getting hacked, arguing with people over the finer points of the game, etc.

If this isn't a surviving retro community, it's a very clever simulation of one!

KIDDIE FORUMS --------------------------|>

kurgan i will play you in bgj ff... i can safely say that if you've ever contemplated going light in bgj ff, i will beat you in to the negatives... so hope to see you in irc one day.

I've been to IRC, but never got anyone to even reply to me, much less start a game. 🙁

I suggest you go visit LucasForums.com here and keep track:

http://www.lucasforums.com/showthread.php?p=2162186#post2162186

There is an excellent map pack called "JK2MotS" that converts all the JK maps to MotS:

Grab it here: http://www.jediknight.net/kicker/jk2mots.htm

Message me and we can setup a game, perhaps even this weekend if you're up to it! MotS has better saber control than JK, and no "Force Throw" to spam into negatives with. 😉

I host games every weekend, so just let me know... you can also email
me at kurganx @ comcast.net (remove spaces).

no thanks ill be on irc

You will be safe from me then, good job. 😉

you are one sad mofo kurgan

i told you ill be waiting for your newbie bgj ff lighty ass in irc... like i said if i dont neg you i will be impressed

I made the challenge, if you don't show on the server when it's running each weekend, it's your own fault.

DSbr talks big, but apparently that's all they do these days...